The psychopaths running the government are not going to let a crisis go to waste. They’re taking advantage of the shutdown to cut SNAP benefits and fire civil servants — or they would if courts would let them. Plus, the Ninth Circuit and even the Supreme Court (GASP!) are putting the kibosh on Trump’s plan to flood blue states with troops. And still, Li…
Ep 178 — Are Courts Finally Finding Their Footing In The Second Trump Era?
SNAP and civil servants on the chopping block during shutdown; Ninth Circuit and SCOTUS on National Guard invasions; Comey attempting to unseal Grand Jury
Liz Dye and Andrew Torrez
Oct 31, 2025
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Law and Chaos Podcast
Ignorance of the law is no excuse! That’s true for a traffic stop, and it’s true if you want to participate in whatever’s left of American democracy. If the events since the 2016 election taught us anything, it’s that tuning out is not an option. Legal journalist Liz Dye and practicing lawyer Andrew Torrez break down the week’s most important courtroom stories, so you can keep on top of this crazy news cycle. Whether it’s Texas giving two middle fingers to the Supreme Court, or Donald Trump in all the courts at once, we’ve got you covered.
Ignorance of the law is no excuse! That’s true for a traffic stop, and it’s true if you want to participate in whatever’s left of American democracy. If the events since the 2016 election taught us anything, it’s that tuning out is not an option. Legal journalist Liz Dye and practicing lawyer Andrew Torrez break down the week’s most important courtroom stories, so you can keep on top of this crazy news cycle. Whether it’s Texas giving two middle fingers to the Supreme Court, or Donald Trump in all the courts at once, we’ve got you covered.Listen on
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